Here Come the Trolls!

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by Katrina on September 30, 2013

While I was writing my book, Maxed Out: American Moms on the Brink, I had three nagging fears.

  1. It wouldn’t get published.
  2. It would get published but no one would read it.
  3. People would read it…and say really mean things about me.

I’ve crossed #1 off the list. The book was published at the beginning of this month with a fabulous publisher (Seal Press, a member of The Perseus Books Group).

I think it’s safe to say I can stop worrying about #2. The book has been a category bestseller (in motherhood) on Amazon pretty consistently over the last three weeks. Reviews and interview requests are steadily rolling in from The Washington Post, Parade, NBC’s TODAY.com, TIME, and others. People are definitely reading the book.

Which brings me to #3…

In the last three weeks I’ve been called “lazy,” “entitled,” and “childish.” I’ve been called a “whiner” and a “socialist.” It’s been said that I write about first world problems and for that reason they don’t count. (If you’re curious to know what the self-styled “Christian anti-feminist wives” think of me, Google my name plus ‘sunshine’ plus ‘Mary.’) Here’s a sampler platter of comments that made my hair stand on end:

From “Lydia Kennerly”

I am sick of hearing these women whine and complain that it’s just too hard.  It’s life.  Suck it up…The last 15-20 years have bred the biggest generation of sniviling whiners of any generation…It’s TOO HARD (sniff, sniff).   Women complain about equal pay, but this is what they bring to the party. If it’s too hard, shut up and go back to the kitchen.

From “Snarkado”

Another breeder making things hard on herself. [1] Hey, why not have five more kids, or even more? If she can hit twenty I bet she can have her own TV show!

From “David from VA Beach”

What a whiner she is. Typical of those now a days who want to have it all. How about this: you’re husbad works (or if you make more money, he stays home)? Oh, she/he can’t as they wants a $500K house, an SUV and a  BMW or two in the driveway. [2] She made her own bed. And three kids? Is she running a farm? The only thing dumber than having a litter of kids is having one at 41 years old?! [3] She will be 61 when the kid is 21. Sounds wonderful.

From “oy-ve”

We all know you can’t have it all – but some of us are so determined!

Since we can’t have it all, now some expect EVERYBODY ELSE to make it possible for them to have it all. Can you say, ‘SELF-ABSORBED!’

There are plenty more where those came from.

My husband (a man who brims with common sense) warned me months ago that I’d need to toughen up before this book came out. But you know what? I’m just not that person. I’m not thick-skinned. The mean snipes induce in me an overwhelming urge to draw the shades, flop on the couch, and eat a pint of ice cream.

What keeps me from inhaling an entire freezer full of Ben & Jerry’s is the growing number of emails and messages like this one:

I just finished your book (on audio) – literally just finished it, about a minute ago. I’m in tears. Thank you for articulating what has been running through my head and heart since my son was born 14 years ago and my daughter 12 years ago. Thank you for putting your loving words out there… they made me feel less alone and way less freakish…Every mom I know who is bravely pretending not to feel exactly like I do is getting this book for Christmas. I’ll also be placing a copy in the magazine rack in our lunch room in hopes that one or more of our C level leaders will pick it up and read it.

Every single day for the past three weeks, I’ve received messages from people who say that they’re grateful that someone is telling this story.

One woman told me she was having seizures from stress before she quit her job. Another told me she hid under her desk at work because she was crying uncontrollably and didn’t want anyone to see her. (She waited until everyone went home before she came out.) I’ve heard from architects, academics, designers, teachers, financial analysts, attorneys, paralegals, researchers, corporate managers, Wall St. brokers, social workers, C-level execs, engineers, childcare workers, and women with roles in high-tech, marketing, non-profit, and communications. What they all have in common is they’re mothers, and they have a story about maxing out trying to work and take care of their families. (Even a few of the journalists who’ve interviewed me have made confessions like these.) Over and over, people say they’re relieved to know that they’re not crazy, and it’s not all their fault that they aren’t managing well.

I wrote this book to start a conversation. I’m sharing this information with you because I want you to be part of that conversation. But I want to warn you: when you talk about how it sucks to be a working parent in America, (or when you voice any opinion loudly enough that threatens the status quo), you, too, will be criticized and ridiculed. Maybe the criticism will be more subtle: an eye roll or at an abrupt change of subject. When given the opportunity, people will joyously, anonymously point out that it was your “lifestyle choice” to raise children and work, so no matter how preposterously difficult other people make it, it’s all your fault.

I want you to know that I don’t think you’re a whiner. I hope you will talk about this stuff anyway. It’s important. How can we possibly change a broken system until we truly understand how broken that system is? It is not a coincidence that so many of us are maxing out. It’s easy to forget the facts, such as…

  • Women are now breadwinners in two-thirds of families with children—our families need us to work.
  • Women are still doing more of the work of raising their families, even when both parents work.
  • Women are more at risk for the health effects of job stress.
  • The U.S. ranks 9th from the bottom in work-family policies.
  • This is not only an individual problem; it is a collective problem, which means it will take more than some simple time-management tips to solve it.
  • It doesn’t have to be this way—here’s what you can do now.

Keep talking. Don’t worry about what other people think of you. Meanwhile, I will try to stop checking comments on stories like this one.

Photo credit: Tristan Schmurr

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Footnotes

[1] For the record, I only “bred” two children (the third is my stepdaughter who lives with us two days a week), which would make my fertility statistically average.

[2] Actually, I drive a 7-year-old minivan. It is missing two hubcaps and has a dent in the passenger door from the time my infant son was crying from fever and in my distress I hit a parked car while trying to parallel park near the doctor’s office.

[3] Please let the record show that I had my last child at age 35, not 41. I’m not sure why this matters, but if one’s personal choices are to be criticized, let’s get the facts straight.

{ 47 comments… read them below or add one }

Christa

I’m SO sick of that idea that two working parents is only truly necessary when you’re living high on the hog. We drive a single paid off car, live in a house of a size that was standard in the 1950s, don’t have a lot of luxuries, and yes, my income is a necessary part of our budget.

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Jennifer

Don’t let the bastards get you down, Katrina! And I’m with you, Christa. We have a paid off, 10-year old RAV (yes it has 3 letters, but those letters are hardly “BMW”), and live in a modest home that took us nearly 12 years of hard work and saving every dime to be able to afford (translation: Not anywhere in the vicinity of a half-million dollar house. In fact, about a third of that). And yes, I was 40 when I had my child (just one, by the way, not a “litter”). Why 40? Why just one? Because I had to suffer through years of infertility issues and miscarriages before being blessed with my son. I wanted more (don’t worry, “David from VA” – just one more), but I did not want to put myself or my husband through the agony of potentially losing more babies through miscarriage again. I still work AND care for my son (along with my husband who has had to switch to working nights because we cannot afford our “luxury mansion” on one salary), so that my son will always have what he needs (like a home, food, clothing, diapers, an education, health care…you know…all those things we “whiners” want. How selfish of us.) And actually, I do know someone who has 3 kids and, yes, they do run a farm as a matter of fact. Literally. Cows, chickens, pigs, sheep. The whole works. What’s your point, “David from VA Beach”?

Permit me to educate those reading this with a little story of my own: My grandmother, born in 1911, lived through the depression, had 3 children during the 1940s (the last child – my mother – having been born to my grandmother when she was 38, by the way), cared for a disabled husband, cared for her immigrant parents until their deaths, worked in a hospital kitchen while raising her children, lived on the same street from birth in a tiny 2-bedroom house until her death, and who had no car, ever (she took the bus to her job, to do all the grocery shopping, to take me to the Woolworth’s lunch counter when I was a child)…She was a “whiner”, too. By the way, “David from VA Beach”… Have you ever talked to YOUR mother (I’m assuming you have one) about her experience as a mother, her thoughts and feelings, or asked her how life was for her while she was raising YOU? Or how about your grandmother? Or an aunt? A second cousin twice removed? Any woman? Or are you the only child in your entire extended family, because the women in your family were all wise enough to decide in their 20s to “suck it up” and not to be “breeders” (I’m talking to you now, “Lydia Kennerly” and “Snarkado”). So to those of you who have not walked a mile in anyone’s shoes but their own: Do not let ignorance be your guide. Or at the very least, do not let it continue to be.

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Katrina

Agreed!

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Holly

Thank you Christa! The media continually marginalizes the struggles of working parents by suggesting the two income family is a choice. It is a BS distraction.

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Sweta
Louise

I always love the “breeder” comments. Who do they think will care for them when they are old? I don’t mean that we should procreate our own personal elder-care providers. I mean, if no one has children (as many among the child-free seem to advocate) who will be their doctors, their nurses, their pharmacists, their farmers, their garbage removers, their mechanics, etc. It doesn’t matter how much money they self-righteously squirrel away to remain “self-sufficient” in old age – they will be wholly dependent on other people’s children to provide the goods and services they need – no matter what. Someone has to make the sacrifices necessary to raise those children. In the U.S. – those sacrifices are huge. Unless the child-free intend to live off the land and die where they fall, they better start thanking their lucky stars that someone is willing to do the hard work of keeping civilization going.

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Katrina

“Unless the child-free intend to live off the land and die where they fall, they better start thanking their lucky stars that someone is willing to do the hard work of keeping civilization going.”

Well said! Can I use that line in interviews. 😉

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Louise

I would love it if you would – I’m not brave like you – I can only preach to the choir. 🙂

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RookieMom Whitney

Exactly, Louise! I have nothing to add!

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Angel

I have read some of the negative comments on your reviews. I can understand not agreeing with what you have written, I can even understand not liking your book, but what I can’t understand for the life of me, is why people are so MEAN!?!? What the heck? Who raised these people? Is the world really full of cruel misogynists who hate families?
I know haters gonna hate, but I just wish they had less access to the internet, and maybe not so much free time?
Work on fortifying your “deflection shield”, keep your head up, and keep moving forward.

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Katrina

Thank you. The reviews themselves have been overwhelmingly positive, so I try to focus on that. Here’s on that just came in this morning:

http://www.projecteve.com/moms-brink-book-review/

On another note, I interviewed an expert on happiness recently, and I’m working on another post about how to cheer yourself up when you’re down. I’m sure we can all use it.

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Angel

What a great review! I especially like the part about how at first, agreeing to review your book was an energy drain on her already overstuffed full plate, but then, she ended up energized and, acknowledged, and better informed. Thats what I’m talking about!

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Diana Aspillera

Hi! Congratulations on getting your book out and arriving at this happy (?) moment. People are moved to react!

It takes courage and perseverance to have arrived where you are, those jerks are just envious of your strength, and lack the creativity to do something themselves. Its easy to be mean when you’re in your bubble, its easier to stay in your bubble, too. Too bad there is such a lack of valuable discourse on comment threads.

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SarahButtonedUp

It IS hard to ignore the trolls. But try to hold, as you are, the thought that your work is sparking much-needed debate and dialogue on the topic. It is also helping many, who struggle to find a sane path forward, that they are not alone. Well worth the occasional fear-based, fact-free (or at the very least fact-challenged) troll comment.

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BreadWinner Mom

There will always be a faction out there that dismisses any complaint by someone who eats 3 meals a day as a “first world problem.” Sure it is. But that doesn’t make it less real. It’s called Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Look it up.
There will also be those that believe that no working mother has the right to complain about anything, ever, because society went to hell the minute women left the kitchen. And those who believe in zero population growth will attack anyone who has had the audacity to procreate.
I have become convinced that online comment sections exist for the sole purpose of allowing ignorant people to anonymously hurl insults about things they don’t even try to understand. To be visible is to be a target, and the bigger the platform (e.g. Today.com, CNN.com), the bigger the trolls.
You just tell your story and know it will touch those who need to hear it (and that half the people who use the word “socialist” as a pejorative don’t even know what socialism really is).

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Karen S.

Whenever you are trying to reclaim your power and encourage others to do the same the “trolls” will come out. It’s like their food source they survive off! You are providing such an important voice for so many women who have been kept silent by the “trolls’ for way too long. Congratulations on your courage to write and share your deeply personal story and helping so many women other women with similar struggles. As for the “breeders” comment the message that sends me as a woman is that not only do we want you to fit into a workplace structure that was never created for or by women let alone working moms, but now women should just stop being mothers in the first place then all the problems would be solved. Women should just stop being women and instead become working clones. Keep up the great work you are doing Katrina for SO many women out there!

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katerina

Hang in there, Katrina! You’re raising a very important topic and one that is bound to make a lot of people scream at you. Oh, and there is a special role reserved for these folks in their next lifetime – a maxed-out mom in America!

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R B

It takes years for the troll comments to not affect you so much. And then, they still affect you, but you just tell people off in your head without your heart rate going up. People are always trying to tear other people down. There will always be haters. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be in a high profile situation in the public. You’d have to ignore the internet and never google yourself ever.

Keep up the good work.

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Heather

Katrina,

I have a 24-year old co-worker who finished college deep in school debt (as the system designates). Her job –requiring a 4-year degree!– barely pays a survivable wage in real estate in L.A. (as the system designates). It does not include enough to pay back her loan (again, a systemic problem).

Now, she’s lamenting getting an education and wishes she’s searched out a man to provide for her all along because she knows she wants children in a few years.

Lately, I hear from EDUCATED young women who see and EPIC uphill climb and want no part of it at all. They need to see what a powerful voice CAN do. They see to us build a world were women can meet their fullest potential as persons and citizens while being good mothers.

If we do nothing, their bullies and trolls will be meaner. How will they make things better without your education, tools and public platform?

Women and men did hard work for you and I to enjoy. Perfecting that work is not a crime, illegal or immoral. It’s immoral to allow the status quo to silence us.

Your book was divinely inspired — we all here to learn from each other and learn to be better. I have learned from you.

I wish I had your platform right now. Show your courage. Even– lean in! for us all.

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Jen

Keep up the good work, Katrina! I have posted links to reviews and articles regarding your book on my FB page and have many a female/mommy friend say ‘thank you’ to me for sharing your work. The trolls may be loud and obnoxious, but those of us in the trenches, we live the realities of working and parenting. You have been so brave to share your story, so keep doing it because together we CAN change this conversation!

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Amy

Katrina–The callousness of the comments you quoted make me sick to my stomach. I’d like to add an abbreviated version of my story to long list.

When my 3-yr old was born with Down syndrome and a congenital heart defect requiring open heart surgery, for reasons that are nobody’s business, we decided it was best that I stay home with him. As the main breadwinner in the family, our household income dropped by more than 65%, resulting in the loss of our condo. We now rent in a very expensive state and are unable to buy a home even if we had the money. I returned to work after 9 months as our situation was not sustainable. For my 35 mile commute I drive a Hyundai Accent in need of a timing belt and new brakes. My husband drives a friend’s clunker because the engine in his 6-yr-old minivan died and we don’t have $3500 to replace it. Oh, and my husband and I parent largely tag-team style meaning we see very little of each other.

Is this “having it all?”

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Lea Singh

I am shocked at the negative reactions you’ve experienced. Those kinds of vitriolic reactions are exactly what keeps the United States from changing for the better. Please don’t think that all Christian mothers are the same on this. I consider myself Christian too, and I don’t usually call myself a feminist (there are many things in feminism that I don’t agree with). But on the issue of better working conditions for women, I am completely in your camp. It’s as clear as day that the work-crazed culture of the United States has gone overboard, far too much in one direction. Even MEN are suffering, this is not just a women’s issue. The bottom line is, FAMILIES are suffering, and ultimately the biggest cost is being paid by the children themselves.

It really makes me fume when I encounter the attitude that demanding better conditions is equivalent to being a socialist, a whiner, lazy, or whatever. Especially when those criticisms come from other women! Ladies, why are you fighting against yourselves here? Perhaps you have never experienced the kind of working culture that many of us have. Well, I have. I have gone through weeks when I hardly saw daylight. I didn’t have a family back then. If I had, they would have been the ones who paid the price. Whether we are talking about men or women, I would almost say this is a question of basic human rights. Plenty of women (and men) are “tough enough,” but they still should not be asked to give that much at work. The price in terms of family life is too high. It’s inhuman, it’s wrong.

Our whole culture needs to change. Katrina, you are so right. Forget about the negative gripes. Forget about the names you are being called. Stay confident, you are blazing ahead with the truth. And the truth will set us free (John 8:32).

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Christine

I just read your excerpt in the EBX. I’m glad you anticipated the trolls and are somewhat prepared for the attacks. I read with disgust some of the attacks on the author of the Atlantic piece and on Sheryl Sandberg. It’s just so ridiculous. Your point exactly is to leave moms – and the choices we make – alone. People don’t seem to realize that all this “whining” and “complaining” is stirring the pot, sparking the conversation, and perhaps, one day catalyzing change within a system that isn’t working for modern day families. Thanks for being brave enough to write this book, and putting up with the barrage of inane insults.

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T

Katrina,

I am originally from a country where household help (housekeeper, gardener etc) is very reasonable and there is a large ‘village’ of extended family members to help with child raising. Now I am living in the States with my husband and our 3 and 4 year old sons. It is completely different — and I honestly thought I was crazy because all the other working moms I know seem to be doing fine – while I have panic attacks and suffer from adrenal fatigue.

Thank you for speaking up for moms like me. I can’t tell you what it feels like to know that I am not alone.

Also, you couldn’t have picked a better troll photo to describe the ‘haters’. U.G.L.Y. 🙂

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Monk-Monk

I have a job with Magic Fridays and only one child and I still feel like I’m one thread away from collapse. And of course I’m crazy enough to think about having another…sigh.

But this book was SO timely. My good friend and I have been reading it on our phones and texting quotes and passages wildly for the past few days. We’ve already been clinging together knowing that our working mommyhood has been hard, but we’ve felt crazy and alone…and now knowing that we aren’t alone, is amazing! I left a little review on my blog!

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Monica

I don’t know why I am surprised that narrow-minded people have harsh things to say about your book, the world is full of people like this. Everyone struggles with something, for working moms, this book hits the nail on the head. Women are always going to feel that pull for their children, a pull that men just don’t have so they are fortunate enough to go to work and feel like they are doing what is expected out of them. The fact is, often times women are expected to go to work too because we cannot survive without both incomes, and yet we are not allowed to feel the crushing weight of responsibility to be a caregiver, a wife, an employee, a housemaid, mother of the year, etc. Ridiculously narrow-minded people! I sit through the same sermons as “sunshine Mary” about men being the leaders and women being the submissive followers… it has never changed the fact that the bills come due and my paycheck pays half or more of them. Here we go with people beating each other up again instead of focusing on the real issue, the United States is a world leader and prides itself on its democratic nature and yet treats the very human beings who bring them into this world like an afterthought. I’d love to see the men who criticize this book “suck it up and go back to work” after birthing a child, and I am not talking in 12 weeks, I am talking the same week– after all there is no such federal requirement to pay someone who birthed a child ANYTHING! Must be nice to judge a circumstance that you cannot biologically experience yourself!

Keep blazing the trail Katrina, your critics are not worth a moments glance in the rear-view mirror!

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Elizabeth Flora Ross

Yes, the trolls will come. It’s the sad state of our society today. But, you don’t have to play their game. You can ignore them. I love your attitude.

This is a fascinating video about the psychology of the internet troll:

http://www.themompledgeblog.com/2013/06/psychology-of-internet-troll.html

I look forward to reading your book. It sounds fabulous!

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Amanda

Well I love your book. Period. Really love it! If you are getting lots of negative and positive comments, I think you are doing something right.

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brittany

Wow, I just stumbled across this website, and this posting. I am astonished at how mean people can be. I read things all the time I don’t agree with but I have never dreamed of making comments like those listed. How disrespectful people are becoming! I guess its easy for others to sit at their computer and write such hurtful things. Such a sad state we are coming to…

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Laura in DC

Katrina,

I absolutely LOVE your book, blogs, outlook, and insights. I’m reading your book after the kids go to bed and it’s the second book I’ve been able to read end-to-end in 5 years. Just about everything you say completely mirrors my life. For years I’ve had strange illnesses and symptoms and would see doctors that would attribute it all to generalized anxiety disorder. I’ve also had one major panic attack on the beltway and minor ones at the most bizarre times. The stress of trying to balance everything takes a toll, and I even have amazing support from my parents living a block away and being our daycare! It’s a tremendous relief for me to realize that I’m not alone and in fact, I’m just like most other working moms according to your research- maxed out. I have a PhD in molecular biology and chose to have a career and three kids, but without having a long maternity leave I quit breastfeeding before I was ready, I was absolutely emotionally spent and exhausted, I feel pressure to live up to certain expectations, I can’t get sick and take time off, I don’t have the option to work part time since I make more that my husband etc. You’ve said it all and I appreciate it so much along with thousands of other women. Thanks for blazing the trial for our generation!

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Carolyn

Don’t listen to the evil trolls!! Thank you so much for writing this book. I have been looking around for years at my fellow working moms, wondering, how long are we going to keep pretending that this lifestyle works?!? When is someone going to raise a voice in the wilderness?! Thank you for being that voice. For every troll that calls you “entitled” or “whiny” there are hundreds (actually more like millions) of stressed out working moms who know exactly what you are talking about and we need someone to be an advocate for us. I hope your book is a huge success so that you never have to work and you can be our advocate for many years to come! 🙂

And to the trolls…most working moms don’t work to drive a BMW or live in a fancy house, we do it because we have to buy groceries and pay rent/mortgage. A lot of us are one paycheck away from poverty. I don’t know very many working moms who actually take vacations, either, because they can’t afford it and also because they are too stressed to even plan a vacation. I personally drive an old car, take the bus to work, hardly ever eat out, live in an inexpensive small house, and still barely make ends meet. Our societal structure has not caught up to the fact that most families have 2 working parents (or even more difficult, a single working mother).

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Katrina

I just want to say THANK YOU everyone for all the great stories and comments.

After reading these comments, I started working up a new post in my mind about financial sacrifice. This idea that our problems would go away if we would just learn to live on less. It’s so out of sync with the reality of how most people are living NOW. It’s so out of sync with the need for 2 incomes, the need to HAVE a career in case the other person dies, divorces you, or gets laid off, or the fact that many of us are single parents.

I’ll noodle on it some more, but in the meantime, keep sharing your stories. I love reading them, and I know others do, too.

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DH

I have followed your blog for a while. Thank you for the important work you do. Please ignore the trolls. You give a voice to millions of women who struggle daily to give care to family members both young and old while being employed in workplaces which only give lip service to family values. Employers need to support true family values by providing workplace flexibility. Workplace flexibility would allow women to be both good employees and good caregivers.

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Renee

I have followed your blog for quite some time now, and I just finished reading your book today during my lunch break. To put it simply – thank you! Thank you for putting yourself out there, for sharing your story, and for giving the rest of us working moms on the brink someone to relate to. Someone who is brave enough to be the public face of what so many of us are struggling with.

I am a 30-something married mother of two young boys. I have a supportive husband and extended family. I have an understanding female boss, she herself is/was a working mom (her children are now grown). I have an amazing child care provider who feels like family. At first glance, it looks like my life is great and I have everything under control and that I have all the help and support one should need. But the truth is, there are more rough days than there are smooth days. Some days I loathe the fact that my income is required to keep our family afloat. And that’s all it is. Merely making ends meet. We live in a VERY old home (built in 1873) in need of MANY repairs. We drive 10 year old vehicles. We clip coupons. We don’t take fancy trips. We accept hand-me-downs. And none of these are complaints. I’m just trying to add to the argument that most of us working moms are not working to support a Hollywood lifestyle.

On the flip side, my sister is a stay at home mom to two little ones. We swap stories all the time. She wishes she could get out of the house more, even if it meant going to work. And I crave more time at home with my kiddos. Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry. But our conclusion? There has got to be a way to find some balance. Decent part time jobs with benefits. More flexibility at our jobs. Affordable quality childcare. Etc, etc. What do we both wish for? To be home with our kids most of the time, but to maintain part time jobs in our fields so that we don’t “lose” our place in the workforce. She’s jealous that I’m in the workforce and keeping up with my field. I’m jealous that she gets to spend tons of time with her kids. Sigh.

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts. Moral of the story – we are all doing the best we can. We all need a little understanding and support. And every mom, working or not, needs to read your book!!! I have already recommended it to every mommy I know, and I know it will be wrapped up as a gift for several special mommies in my life.

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Amanda

I am having troll moments today on my blog. So I came back to look at your troll picture. It instantly brightened my mood!

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Jill

I appreciate that you’re speaking out for those of us who choose to work while raising children. My job is to improve the quality of child care and it amazes (and frustrates) me that in 2013 people still think child care does not need to be improved because mothers should be home with their children.

It’s not my place to judge how others live their lives, why do they feel the need to tell me how to live mine? Every decision is difficult when you’re a parent looking out for your child and family’s best interests. It’s too bad we can’t all support each other as people, no matter our differences.

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Dale Proulx

Katrina,

Thank you for your book. In particular, for your amazing openness and honesty.

My wife worked in severe special education for 20 years, while I worked as pastor and counselor, and we raised our three children. As you can appreciate, it was hard and a challenge.

I read your book as it has been a support to my wife as she maxed out on a demanding job and the special needs of our youngest daughter.

After your very negative experience with evangelical Christians, I’m hesitant to say that my wife and I are moderate evangelicals. We aren’t all like what you’ve experienced. For many of us, our focus in on trying to live as a follower of Christ and reach out in love to others. You are less likely to hear from us than from our more militant brothers and sisters. I suspect that the criticism that you face has a lot to do with people attacking your political convictions.

Again, thank you for your support to our family.

Yours,

Dale

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Thank you for shining light on these issues. For the record, I do not want a fancy car or a big house. I just want health insurance, the ability to feed my family healthy food on a tight budget, and a few simple luxuries (my membership to the YMCA that covers classes and I love using the machines in the winter when it’s too cold outside.)

I’m a librarian, which means I don’t make six figures. It’s hard work, but I love it. I am hopeful that I’ll be able to have a family and keep working 30-40 hours a week.

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Where are the dads? If the dads are dead I get it but if your spouse isn’t supportive of your career or co-parenting or if you aren’t willing to utilize your ex outside the custody agreement then it’s a bigger issue than the workplace. Every boss I’ve had has been understanding of our colleagues with children once they had a conversation. There was, however, an expectation that if a person was in a job they fulfilled the requirements of the job, whether single or married, with children or without. If you and your spouse assume that his job is more important than yours or that only you can handle cooking, cleaning and children, that should be re-examined. The spouses should split the housework the same way they split the out-of-house work.

I do think schools should move from farming hours to industrial hours to accommodate better learning and the schedules of working parents, but I’m sure the unions would strike over that as unfair. What I do know is that government mandated programs that cost more money than we have and that tie the hands of employers trying to stay in business is not the answer.

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